Lessig: Gay Marriage in SF: Larry Lessig offers an interesting analysis about the San Francisco mayor's decision to issue marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples on the theory that the state law prohibiting the action is unconstitutional. Lessig's argument -- which I think is well-supported -- is that the executive branch has just as much authority as the legislative or judicial to declare a particular law (or court ruling) inconsistent with the state constitution.

Compare Dan Gillmor's argument that this amounts to nothing more than "governmental lawbreaking" because it's the province of the courts and the legislature, not the executive, to rule on constitutionality. Gillmor responds to Prof. Lessig by raising the point, which Lessig concedes, whether a local-level executive has the authority to effectively overrule a higher-level governmental body.)

Another interesting question is how the SF action should relate to the Good Faith & Credit Clause of the U.S. Constitution. Implicitly, if two gay people are married in California, and then they go to Nevada, shouldn't Nevada have to honor the marriage on the face of the license, without looking behind it to see whether the marriage would be legitimate under its own laws? Does it matter if only San Francisco, or only the county, recognizes SF gay marriages, and the rest of the state ignores them? If the state passes a law declaring all marriages authorized by the City of San Francisco invalid?

UPDATE: Lessig writes: "So I said my analysis depended upon facts about CA law that I didn’t know. My wife reports that NPR reports that there is a law in California that instructs state officials to obey laws until properly challenged in court. If that’s correct, that, in my view, changes the analysis completely: Except in the most extreme cases, such a law would be a sensible way to order disputes about CA law. Whether or not the marriage law is constitutional, I should think that law would be constitutional. And if that law is constitutional, then an official who disobeyed it would be — as Dan Gillmor said originally — violating the law."

posted 02.16.04 || more Text || comments (6)
Comments

I read somewhere that someone in MD introduced legislation that would view other states gay marriages as invalid.

http://www.edjansing.net/mt_blog/archives/000494.html

From my understanding (which I will admit is limited), once the Equal Rights Amendment passed, it's basically a matter of time until gay marriage is permitted. But then I read somewhere that ERA never passed. Thoughts?

Posted by: Greg on 02.16.04

The ERA was adopted by Maryland, but 3/4 of the states need to adopt it before the Constitution is amended, and that hasn't happened. According to some quick Googling, though, the ERA (based on legislative history and courts considering state constitutional amendments with the same wording) wouldn't compel states to recognize same-sex marriage. The Amendment would only equalize rights between women and men, not . . . address issues of discrimination based on sexual orientation."

As for the Maryland law, the interesting issue is its intended scope versus its likely actual scope. Under established law, a marriage in one state has to be recognized by all other states. The only exception is for the ONE state in which the couple has the most significant contacts at the time of the marriage, which can invalidate the marriage when it is against the "strong public policy" of the state. This is what prevents Marylanders from flying to California just to get a California marriage license. What Maryland looks like it wants to do, however, is to say that homosexuals who are legally married in California and subsequently move to Maryland would then have their marriage invalidated. This is a big deal -- it doesn't appear that any state has EVER exercised this sort of control over other states' marriages.

The Supreme Court has so far declined to decide whether the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the U.S. Constitution precludes the states from unilaterally ignoring other states' marriages, so it will be interesting to see what kind of litigation is spurred by the recent activities in San Francisco.

Posted by: Rob on 02.16.04

I had a conversation with a lawyer-friend about this a while back. The words involved were things like "scrutiny" and stuff like that. I don't remember the rest.

Basically, we're in for a ride.

Posted by: Greg on 02.16.04

Looks like some people need a refresher:

The ERA never passed. Look at any current copy of the Constitution (with ammendments), and you'll see that there's an ammendment about congressional pay raises, but no ERA.

The US Constitution includes two important clauses. One is the full faith and credit clause, as noted on the site. The other allows Congress to regulate how states keep records. Citing this second clause, Congress passed a bill, in 1996, that President Clinton signed into law called the Defense of Marriage Act (http://www.ctlibrary.com/809). This *federal* law defines marriage *federally* as a union between a man and a woman, and allows states to ignore gay marriages made under state law. Most states (over 30, I believe) have passed similar laws, and California's is actually a part of the state constituion, passed by over 2/3 of the voters.

Posted by: Max on 02.21.04

online kontakt http://online-kontakt.mt-forum.com/

Posted by: online kontakt on 01.13.05

animalsex farmsex freepic http://storiespics.homeftp.org/animalsex-farmsex-freepic.html http://storiespics.homeunix.com/beastiality-forum.html - beastiality forum http://storiespics.ham-radio-op.net/animal-sex-stories.html - animal sex stories http://storiespics.homeunix.com/free-animal-porn.html - free animal porn http://storiespics.homelinux.com/beastiality-stories-free.html - beastiality stories free http://storiespics.ham-radio-op.net/horse-sex-.pictures..html - beastiality

Posted by: animalsex farmsex freepic on 02.26.05

Post a comment
Name:


Email:


URL:


Comment:


Remember info?




Creative Commons License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License.
powered by Movable Type 2.661
based upon a design by quixotic pixels
hosted by baltiblogs